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  1. Brad Mixner
    Brad Mixner at |

    Are the economics of the aircraft such that they can do this profitably without charging a huge premium? If so? Awesomeness

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    1. Seth Miller
      Seth Miller at |

      Economics are far better than what the A318 can deliver, especially when you figure skipping the stop and saving on the extra crew time that requires (pilots change in SNN). Unclear if that is enough to make the route viable, however. And no doubt that BA would defend the LON-NYC market aggressively. Just look at the JFK-LGW ops now.

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  2. Florian Spisla
    Florian Spisla at |

    So this is on the Bombardier homepage only for the moment?

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    1. Seth Miller
      Seth Miller at |

      I don’t even see the announcement on an official public Bombardier channel. But it is in the email I received from the press team inviting me to stop by their booth at Le Bourget next week.

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    2. Florian Spisla
      Florian Spisla at |

      Well, I guess you keep us posted… I still don’t see how LX will make it (even though I’d try to be on this flight) with the load and the distance. A new, special configuration is out of the question, so will they fly with a 50% load in their Euro economy cabin?

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    3. Seth Miller
      Seth Miller at |

      I do not see it competing well against the BA service without a proper premium cabin installed. The target market is bankers who want flat beds.

      A subfleet is less efficient, obviously, but much like with the PrivatAir option it can be made to work, especially if there are a few routes in play. Imagine if they added LCY-DXB, too. Similar distance and theoretical premium demand.

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      1. David Marquette
        David Marquette at |

        Swiss has had sub fleets in recent past – for example Privatair flew a 737 all biz class EWR-ZRH for years. i’ve seen configs w/ lay down seats staggered in regional jets, looked comfy all right.

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  3. Brad Mixner
    Brad Mixner at |

    The Canadians may have jumped the gun ahead of the Paris Air Show

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    1. Seth Miller
      Seth Miller at |

      That would be impressive. And definitely possible.

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      1. Martin C
        Martin C at |

        As much as I may despise BA I doubt that many punters between LON and NYC on a direct service would ever consider any other carrier than a UK or US carrier.

        Swiss may be fantastic to fly with, great cabin service and crew friendliness, but perhaps LON/NYC isn’t where their future profitability may lie!

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        1. David
          David at |

          Martin C – that seems a VERY odd comment.

          Why do you doubt people would consider anything other than than a UK or US carrier?

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  5. Mal
    Mal at |

    I don’t buy this article at all. The germane quote is not sourced except by an unverified E-Mail and only appears on this website as an image. I am not saying it isn’t true but this is conjecture without any public evidence coming from Bombardier or Swiss.

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  6. Eric
    Eric at |

    What’s the long term viability of the LCY-JFK route? Cross-rail is opening up bringing direct train service from canary wharf to Heathrow.

    The direct return is certainly interesting, but the competition here isn’t the BA flight, it’s the huge number of Heathrow flights.

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  7. Alastair Majury
    Alastair Majury at |

    As a regular flyer from London City more competition is always good on routes. Please keep up updated.

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