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  1. TProphet
    TProphet at |

    Would far more likely see a match-up between Alaska and jetBlue – I think they’ll eventually end up back at the negotiating table.

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  2. CDKing
    CDKing at |

    The rumor that was going around for the last several months what B6+UA but we know that’s not going to happen.

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  3. Jason Rabinowitz
    Jason Rabinowitz at |

    How massive would the culling of legacy F9 routes have to be? Missoula, Bozeman, Bismarck, Sioux Falls, Ma… https://t.co/NEt7SX2YXG

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  4. Brad Mixner
    Brad Mixner at |

    Wow I’ve never even pondered that combo. 🤔

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    1. Seth Miller
      Seth Miller at |

      Still needs a west coast hub/focus city where expansion is viable and local O/D market is sizable. I don’t know where that is.

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    2. Brad Mixner
      Brad Mixner at |

      Good point. Unless they try something like ONT? PDX?

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      1. Noah Kimmel
        Noah Kimmel at |

        and that is the point. VX made sense not because of planes, culture was interesting, but the key was a west coast hub. Frontier doesn’t really bring JetBlue anything they don’t have but planes and pilots. To pay a multiple of value for those is silly – JB can lease planes and can raise pilot salaries to get more if needed and still save money without any management headaches of integration. DEN isn’t big enough or profitable enough to really be a Western hub with a long term growth plan. This idea is interesting but unlikely

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        1. Max M
          Max M at |

          Noah–

          RE: Denver not being a profitable hub.

          Supposedly DEN is UA’s most profitable hub.

          Probably part of the reason F9 still keeps it’s hub there, besides the legacy of it being that.

          Probably also why Norwegian decided to start DEN-LGW and will start DEN-CGN in 2018.

          If there wasn’t profit to be made at DEN, you wouldn’t see Norwegian serving the airport.

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          1. Max M
            Max M at |

            Stupid autocorrect: DEN-CDG; not DEN-CGN

  5. Blake Fisher
    Blake Fisher at |

    Nice use of the word “synergies”, Mr. Gekko. Blue horseshoe loves Anacott Steel. 😉

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    1. Brad Mixner
      Brad Mixner at |

      Showing your age BlakeFish

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  6. Nick Boylan
    Nick Boylan at |

    As someone that is 6’5 and lives in Denver, I would welcome this, since my limit on Frontier is 2 hours

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  7. mwwalk
    mwwalk at |

    Interesting post. As a Denver flyer I would love more than 1/2 jetblue flights – would really love a hub. And if they are thinking about expanding big, Denver is a great place to do it because the airport was designed to be easily expanded. If they really wanted, they could buy frontier and build an entirely new concourse in the next three years and have a huge hub. That’s not available at any other major airport that I can think of (would love to be corrected if it is). But I’m not sure a hub at Denver makes sense because of the huge southwest and united operations there. Still, I can dream.

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  8. henry LAX
    henry LAX at |

    no one should fault UA for responding to their DEN expansion, both in terms of flight additions and verbal comments by Scott Kirby.

    F9 was the one who chose to initiate such a massive expansion at the verge of the IPO, and it would be foolish for anyone to expect the key competitors at DEN would just sit quietly while F9 does a victory lap around the mile high airport.

    That being said, I agree that the biggest value of B6+F9 isn’t Airbuses, but giving them a DEN hub which was the crucial missing piece between the seemingly disjointed west-coast east-coast network that jetBlue has been running. But they need to scrub that ULCC image of F9 fast.

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  9. FlyingFan1
    FlyingFan1 at |

    Even heard rumors from a US-pilot that Spirit might join the party as well.

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  10. Sean Roebuck
    Sean Roebuck at |

    I’m still thinking current Franke and exFranke merger

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  11. tortugamon
    tortugamon at |

    NK is a better fit for F9 and likewise, they should be willing to pay more. Similar business models with very little route overlap and management that already know each other.

    That being said, I don’t discount B6’s strong desire to grow, organically, or by acquisition and there just isn’t many targets out there. HA maybe.

    You’re right that it would be a shock to the Frontier business model which Franke has proven to be a successful one. The biggest winner of this potential merger would therefore be NK; with no direct ULCC competition on the horizon.

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  12. Mike Holovacs
    Mike Holovacs at |

    That’s not a merger. That’s JetBlue buying airplanes and putting that other shit brand out of its misery.

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    1. Brad Mixner
      Brad Mixner at |

      I wonder how many cruises they’ve ruined over the years. Every winter I hear countless stories…

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    2. Mike Holovacs
      Mike Holovacs at |

      Which is all the more sad given where you live. The stats say that cruising is pretty much alien to everyone but the West Coast and the NE Corridor. The cruise brands suffer as a result.

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    3. Brad Mixner
      Brad Mixner at |

      Lots here love cruises and all inclusive. The Dominican trips do well.

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  13. Sean Colahan
    Sean Colahan at |

    🤔

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