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  1. Rayn
    Rayn at |

    Is the CLE to UA in similar situation? CLE is just so close to EWR and ORD.

  2. MikeTheActuary
    MikeTheActuary at |

    Actually, I’d hope that the demise of the MEM Hub for DL would also mean the end of DL’s MEM fortress hub pricing.

    A few years ago, it was common to see many Shelby County TN license plates in the parking lots at LIT and BNA because the difference in fares made up for the cost of the drive.

  3. NYBanker
    NYBanker at |

    CLE and DTW are both on the list. CO doesn’t need CLE, nor does DL need MSP/DTW. CVG was de-hubbed long before NW was on the scene…

  4. Brian
    Brian at |

    Ryan – CLE may be relatively close to ORD, but I wouldn’t say it’s close to EWR.

  5. Golfingboy
    Golfingboy at |

    @NYBanker, interesting comment about DL not needing DTW/MSP and your prediction that DTW is next on the chopping block. DL seems more committed to DTW than MSP and I view MSP as DL’s version of UA’s DEN. MSP will not have a whole lot of international flights, but facilitates as key hub for connections from coast to coast.

    IMO, if DL is going to dehub MSP or DTW, I think MSP will be the one to go if SLC can handle a huge expansion to provide the necessary connections from coast to coast. Bottom line, I don’t think that will happen in this decade or maybe the next.

    I am curious what makes you think DTW will be dehubbed?

  6. NYBanker
    NYBanker at |

    @gb: No carrier needs two hubs in northern, snowy cities where o+d traffic isn’t alone enough to support the routes….that’s what makes me confident that one will go the way of CVG. As to between the two, if you had to pick a local economy to more closely tie yourself to, I’d certainly pick msp over dtw. Detroit has had negative cumulative population growth over the last 100 years….the only top-50 city in the US to be in such a club. I can picture that über-long terminal in dtw sitting largely unused….within ten years.

    Is there some aspect of dtw that you think makes it more compelling that msp economically for a carrier?

    @ryan: the difference between ORD-cle and cle-ewr is 80 miles. This is a trivial difference in terms of air travel.

  7. NYBanker
    NYBanker at |

    Correction….prior post should have been addressed to @Brian, not @Ryan!

  8. Lark
    Lark at |

    Between BNA and MEM UA does not have many flights… Maybe they could further threaten the city of Houston by saying they are going to move traffic from IAH to Tennessee! 🙂

    This UA tool is nice to work with. You can just enter an origen city, and it will show you all the flights from that city.


  9. Jason
    Jason at |

    This does not make me sad. The Memphis airport is terrible. It feels cramped and dank.

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  11. BNTG
    BNTG at |

    Delta will not dehub DTW as they are only second behind ATL in enplanements/deplanements for DL…

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