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  1. frequent churner
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    Did you get hot tea served in a glass, or has that custom disappeared already?

  2. KateFromCA
    KateFromCA at |

    Just booked my trip to Ukraine for July 2013 – flying into Lviv and out of Kiev so will be taking a train between these two cities. Can’t wait!

    I find it interesting that they still don’t seem to have a lot of signs written in Latin characters: like your picture of Вокзал (the train station); how are you supposed to know what it is if you don’t know the Russian alphabet?

    Ukraine seems to have made it easier for foreigners to come (no visa requirements, no archaic rules about telling the government where you are staying, etc.), but I think having signs that non-Slavs can read would help tremendously 😉

  3. Mike from Berlin
    Mike from Berlin at |

    Umh… how many times have you seen signs in cyrillic scipt in addition to latin ones in western cities for slav visitors?

  4. mg
    mg at |

    Was just in Ukraine myself for a few weeks as well. You can get a glass of tea on the train still – cost us 4 UAH from the attendant in the car in second class, I assume that’s standard. There’s a hot water heater down near her cabin – I think you could maybe use the water itself for free if you brought your own tea and glass.

    From Lviv to Kiev, KateFromCA, you’ll unfortunately be faced with sort of a tough choice. There’s a quite fast ~4.5 hour train or a much slower (almost twice as long I think) one that runs overnight. The fast train is new – it’s not fast by general western european standards but it is standards. They bought the cars from Hyundai in preparation for the Euro 2012 tournament; they also have it on, I think, one other route. The faster train is more expensive (though still not very much so by interna

  5. mg
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    …whoops, jumped the gun. the faster train is more expensive but not crazy relative to what trains cost in the rest of Europe – but it lacks the character of the slower trains. It is, however, more comfortable, and it runs during the day (in the evening, I think, though I took it in the other direction) so you get to see a lot of the countryside.

    We also rented a car in a few different spots in Ukraine – in Crimea and to get around the Carpathians. It was expensive and there was a lot of hassle (the cops are crooked and annoying, and the roads are full of pot holes) but it was a nice way to see some otherwise tough-to-reach scenery.

  6. KateFromCA
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    @Mike from Berlin: the Slavs can all read Latin characters (even if they often aren’t able to communicate in a “western” language very well) – I am fluent in Russian and have lived in various Slavic countries for many years so I can attest to the level of “Latin” reading ability that Eastern Slavs have.

    However, it is much less likely that a person whose native script is Latin will be able to read Cyrillic. Same for Asian characters – thus English signs all over metropolitan areas in Asia.

  7. KateFromCA
    KateFromCA at |

    Thanks mg! I looked up train schedules on some site and did see a 4.5 hr one, which was much faster than the rest! Doesn’t look like you can book into July of 2013 yet, and it’s probably not necessary to book THAT far in advance anyway. 🙂

  8. LarryInNYC
    LarryInNYC at |

    That first class cabin looks pretty swank!
    What were the actual prices?

  9. Sergey
    Sergey at |

    you should try their third class (called platzkart) – this is unbelievable experience.

  10. beachfan
    beachfan at |

    Nice Report!!

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