21 Responses

  1. Paul McGrane
    Paul McGrane at |

    Amazing. I’m talking to my brother who has been to DPRK about it. I guess USA tourism to DPRK is finished,… https://t.co/BmVXMjUN0k

  2. Joey
    Joey at |

    This is a shame. There’s a DPRK aviation tour (Wonsan Air Festival) my friend had wanted to go to in September!

  3. Blake Fisher
    Blake Fisher at |

    Dang

  4. James Garrett
    James Garrett at |

    Well crap. It seems like such a lovely place haha

  5. Andreas Mowinckel
    Andreas Mowinckel at |

    What will Dennis rodman do? 😀

    1. Sean Roebuck
      Sean Roebuck at |

      WWDRD?

  6. Matt Lindenberg
    Matt Lindenberg at |

    Seems like travel there was a pretty stupid decision regardless.

  7. Jamie Baker
    Jamie Baker at |

    How is it “official”? It’s up to the DPRK whether to accept a US passport and issue a visa. Do we share a border somewhere with the DPRK I don’t know about?

    1. Seth Miller
      Seth Miller at |

      It is official because the US Government published the new rule in the Federal Register.

      Choosing to ignore federal regulations doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

      Also, there have been mixed reports as to whether tour groups will continue to accept travelers on US passports, whether the DPRK will allow those travelers in or if China/Russia will cooperate in reporting the travel details out. But none of that changes the legality question.

    2. Jamie Baker
      Jamie Baker at |

      Well, it begs the question – is a law actually a law if it is unenforceable? I’m not debating the regulation exists. And I get the point that agencies may choose to bar Americans from participating on tours. But to suggest the US passport is now “illegible” is ridiculous as US Customs and Immigration is in no way involved with travel to the DPRK. And I’m fairly certain China can NOT
      legally pass to the US information about Americans legally entering China off Air Koryo flights.

    3. Charles M. Kunz
      Charles M. Kunz at |

      I’ve seen you call this law unenforceable. I’ve only been an immigration lawyer about a year but I can tell you it’s astonishing how much the DHS knows. I wouldn’t bet against them not knowing you’re there

    4. Jamie Baker
      Jamie Baker at |

      Not my area of expertise but I appreciate your perspective. FWIW, I notified the State Department before my visit.

    5. Michael Trager
      Michael Trager at |

      Well, the best way to find out is to “test” the theory (test the regulation). Unfortunately, I’m not available for the “testing pool.” 😉

    6. Nathan Rau
      Nathan Rau at |

      It’s a regulation not law. The biggest issue is if you get in trouble over there. The regulation will block the Swiss (I think) from assisting a detained us national. It’s up to the host country to decide what is acceptable for admittance.

    7. Patrick Le Quere
      Patrick Le Quere at |

      You mean the Swedish? We’ll have to see how it pans out. Frankly it’s not like they were able to do much in the first place anyway. Thus the new regulation, I suppose 🙂

    8. Seth Kaplan
      Seth Kaplan at |

      What Nathan said is probably the main practical impact: that if something goes wrong while you are there, you are even more screwed than before. Kind of like when some of us might or might not have traveled to Cuba years before those restrictions were relaxed, the main risk wasn’t that you would likely get in trouble with the U.S. gov’t. It was that if something went wrong in Cuba, you shouldn’t have been there and were on your own.

  8. CJ
    CJ at |

    I can only imagine the uproar from the “freedom fighters” if this had been enacted by the “black guy”.

    It would have been the act of a dictator…

  9. Robert Agans
    Robert Agans at |

    So frankly here I can understand a travel ban, especially given the current situation. That said, ramping back up on Cuba… that is stupid for sure.

  10. ap
    ap at |

    Just for clarity, this applies to tourism or visits otherwise not in the national interest of the United States. The exception for “national interests” still applies, whether it’s related to diplomacy or humanitarian visits. I have several friends who have visited NK on humanitarian (mostly medical) missions, and it is my understanding that they would still be able to do so, despite this new regulation.