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  1. Brian Fisher
    Brian Fisher at |

    Definitely an interesting one to watch. I haven’t gotten much into the non-alliance code sharing in recent years, but this has me curious. Could I conceivably earn Delta Skymiles by flying an AF codeshare on AS CHS-SEA and then AF onward SEA-CDG? I believe you are right that this service can cause a problem with AF/AS code sharing, but in the short term, it might present an opportunity. Maybe an amateurish question, but with the new changes to the Amex spending waver on Skymiles, I am looking at all of my options. 🙂

    1. Aaron Kitson
      Aaron Kitson at |

      I’m pretty sure the AS flight would earn you no Skymiles, even if it’s a codeshare with AF.

    2. Brian Fisher
      Brian Fisher at |

      That’s what I was wondering. I figured there would be no difference if it was an AF flight number booked through AF. There is definitely a difference is how Skymiles are credited on Delta flights on AF ticket stock vs DL ticket stock. The question would be the ability to book it as a connecting flight from CHS-CDG.

    3. Seth Miller
      Seth Miller at |

      I’d be shocked if you could could get something like CHS-SEA-CDG to book/price. I’m not even sure CHS-SEA carries an AF codeshare.

    4. Brian Fisher
      Brian Fisher at |

      You’re right, there doesn’t seem to be an AF number for that flight when I look for it in Sabre. I guess I could have checked that first. 🙂

  2. DaninMCI
    DaninMCI at |

    I agree. It’s already hard to find award availability on AF using Alaska miles. I don’t think this will help the whole “battle for Seattle” being that Delta can pressure a Skyteam partner will be important sadly.

  3. henry LAX
    henry LAX at |

    From their business practices, AS really has no qualms of negotiating code-share deals with just about ANYONE. So in that sense, no single partner is all that irreplaceable. Partners come and partners go …. it’s the nature of the setup instead of relatively stable setups like an alliance. Lose AF-KL ? They’ll just go talk to LH Group instead. Lose KE ? Talk to Asiana.

    AS can always bring in surprises (like the recent SQ tie-up), but the flip side of that coin is that partner XYZ you’ve been accumulating so hard to redeem leaves them overnight. It’s absolutely unrealistic to think AS will just keep adding partners without losing a few along the way.

  4. Ralf Schumann
    Ralf Schumann at |

    AS and AF do not codeshare, and most through-fares do not allow for interline connections between AS and AF anyways. I believe the “issues” are quite overrated in this context.

    1. Seth Miller
      Seth Miller at |

      Hmm….Pretty sure they used to. Even without the codeshare the partnership is at risk IMO. Not because AS wants it to end but because DL does, and it will use its JV relationship and seat on the AF/KL board to push for such.

      Is it really an “issue” for Alaska Airlines? Maybe, maybe not. But I think it is coming.

    2. Brian Fisher
      Brian Fisher at |

      Air France is listed as a codeshare partner on the AS site.

    3. Ralf Schumann
      Ralf Schumann at |

      Those codeshares are pretty much gone. And that’s something Delta certainly has been involved with, since this directly impacts JV revenue.

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