40 Responses

  1. Oliver Trojak
    Oliver Trojak at |

    Thanks for offering your advice for free 🙂

    1. Seth Miller
      Seth Miller at |

      I make a few bucks here and there through the ads and such. But it isn’t my primary income and probably never will be. I’m okay with that.

      Even without charging it is questionable behavior. With the additional payment there it is really shitty IMO.

    2. Brenton
      Brenton at |

      I’d like a suite upgrade at my next stay!

    3. Oliver Trojak
      Oliver Trojak at |

      Seth Miller your help to my inquires has maximized my opportunities. I am very grateful for that.

    4. Oliver Trojak
      Oliver Trojak at |

      You should consider an optional paid subscription tier 🙂

    5. Seth Miller
      Seth Miller at |

      Other than ad-free reading or just knowing that you’re helping me out I’m not sure that there’s much for me to offer as a paid option. I did add one (been in the works for a while), just to see how it plays out, but my expectations are relatively low.

  2. Joshua Pickles
    Joshua Pickles at |

    That’s the first thing I though when I saw his post. Might just report him to Hyatt

  3. Naomi Vanessa
    Naomi Vanessa at |

    Is there a link to this person? Curious who it is, but I missed a link in the post

    1. Seth Miller
      Seth Miller at |

      I specifically did not name him in the post. There are enough hints that I think he’s pretty easy to find. That quote I pulled is direct from the Patreon page. 😉

    2. Naomi Vanessa
      Naomi Vanessa at |

      Seth Miller thanks…I’ll dig around 🙂

  4. Gene
    Gene at |

    @ Seth — Teaching fraud is how many BoardingArea bloggers got started (yourself NOT included).

  5. David Canty
    David Canty at |

    Good post Seth – As someone who designs and runs programs, I’d prefer to spend my time being innovative and giving all members meaningful benefits and indeed opportunities to input in to future evolution. Fraud is becoming so widespread that it is threatening the sustainability of programs, so much so that lots of time is now spent on closing loopholes, and putting pressure on front-line employees to disappoint customers by turning them away, #Letskeeployaltyfun

    1. Seth Miller
      Seth Miller at |

      We need another night in London with a few pints to talk about these problems. This is hardly the worst of it.

      Also, pints in London is always a good thing.

      1. baccarat_guy
        baccarat_guy at |

        Seth, I think you have a pretty good idea how much this type of thing disturbs me. Especially, the absolutely public nature of the solicitation. People often do favours for family+friends (which do not follow all loyalty program terms&conditions), but this is an entirely different thing. This is MONETISING something that is NOT the blogger’s to MONETISE.

  6. MIKE
    MIKE at |

    Time’s running out to get your own $1 billion Zimbabwean dollar bill, now just $10, shipping and handling extra.

  7. MommaTraveler
    MommaTraveler at |

    There are bloggers/people out there who like to subsidize their vacations and benefit from loyalty status level by offering to have someone book a room for them so the person booking the room can get the stay credit/points, and the blogger/person will offer to pay a percentage of the cost of the room. Thus, they get the status level of the person booking the room, along with all the tier benefits, and are paying a small percentage for the stay. – hey ho, cheap vacay! The person booking the room gets a stay credit towards re-qualifying for the elite level at less of a cost than if they paid for the room themselves.

    I can’t decide whether I think this is a great ‘win-win’ or a sleazy way to subsidize a vacation/achieve elite status. Part of me thinks it’s a quid pro quo type of thing, but the ethical part of me rails against it. I kinda admire the ingenuity of it in a way, but also think it is just a sleazy way to sponge off someone else. I’m Torn!

  8. Julie Breeze
    Julie Breeze at |

    I see this a lot, Seth Miller.

  9. Scott Castle
    Scott Castle at |

    Usually I get peeved when people throw “fraud” around when it is not warranted. But this seems to actually meet all the elements. Good on ya for calling it out.

  10. Steve
    Steve at |

    Why bother with stuff like this when mid and even high tier hotel status is so easy to achieve?

  11. Cheryl
    Cheryl at |

    It looks to me like this blogger is referring to booking via FHR.

  12. Ross Gale
    Ross Gale at |

    This is why we can’t have nice things.

    I feel like I say that too often.

    I can imagine that I’m not the only one who isn’t completely lilly white, though. I have made bookings in the past for family and friends so they can get my benefits and I can get the points they don’t want…the real difference is I don’t charge anyone for my “service”.

    1. Julie Breeze
      Julie Breeze at |

      And, Ross, you’re not doing it to subsidize your own vacation! You’re doing it to help family/friends. I get a little bent out of shape when I see people posting on FB….”hey, let me help you get to your elite status faster… you pay the majority of the cost of a room, I’ll stay there and pay part of the cost, so I’m helping you out ….” Just seems like sponging off people, to me.

      I’m not against the practice of booking rooms for friends/family so it’s a ‘win win’ for both sides; but, to brazenly request it on FB and couch it is a way that you are doing someone a favor …yeah, right! It’s all about sponging and getting a subsidized vacation along with all the benefits being top tier elite brings (and without having to do the legwork yourself to get that status).

    2. Steven L Sullivan
      Steven L Sullivan at |

      I’ve never done a second guest booking for a stay where I wasn’t showing up, except to gift a stay once to a friend who was unemployed, had to travel to a job interview in a different city, for which he used his own WN points to pay for the flight, but needed a room for a night. I used some IHG points to book him a room at a Holiday Inn, with him listed as a second guest and note in the reservation he’d be arriving before me and for the hotel to call me if there were issues checking him in (there were none). I had status at the time, and he got a free breakfast out of that, plus a gift bag with a couple of bottles of water and a snack. But, that was more about being generous with my points to help a friend in need than me getting anything out of it. I’d really like for that kind of opportunity to not be ruined by sleazy tactics like people intentionally using second guests on reservations to help renew their own status on someone else’s dime, and then also making a profit off of it.

      Abuse breaks the system for everyone, and takes away the innocent, occasional uses that shouldn’t be a problem (like what I described) for everyone.

  13. Benjamin Stolt
    Benjamin Stolt at |

    Makes me wonder if this person is trying to “get away with it” or just doesn’t even see the problem…

    1. Joshua Pickles
      Joshua Pickles at |

      He is young and not seasoned

    2. Benjamin Stolt
      Benjamin Stolt at |

      Yet is trying to get people to pay for all his “experience”.

    3. Joshua Pickles
      Joshua Pickles at |

      Benjamin Stolt lock him up

    4. Michael J. Graven
      Michael J. Graven at |

      Nah just book him on all CRJs.

    5. Seth Miller
      Seth Miller at |

      He’s been told many times he’s crossed the line. He’s never shown remorse nor changed his behavior.

      1. Julie Breeze
        Julie Breeze at |

        Then he’s naive and lacks self-awareness —– either that, or he’s a legend in his own mind!

      2. Dia
        Dia at |

        This is more true than you can imagine.

        1. Trevor
          Trevor at |

          I remember a few other times he’s crossed the line, too… was hoping one of those lessons would have stuck.

  14. Bob
    Bob at |

    All I see is references to Virtuoso and FHR. Aren’t those valid? Not that I agree with the fee. But I don’t think booking that way is a scam. Right?

    Now of course, attention has been drawn to the practice mentioned in your post. I had 2 nights booked for my sister. Thinking I can’t do that anymore.

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  16. J D
    J D at |

    People have been buying/selling/transferring UR points, MR points and airline miles since eons. This seems similar.
    Can somebody explain the modus operandi of this person?

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