28 Responses

  1. Tim Murphy
    Tim Murphy at |

    I actually like connecting at NRT. JAL has some great lounges, plus the AA lounge there isn’t bad either, if you want to lounge hop. And the JAL flight to BKK didn’t seem so long, perhaps because of newer aircraft and decent service.

    1. Seth Miller
      Seth Miller at |

      The onward flight will be fine and the terminal really is nice. This is completely a mental challenge for me. I’ve been on the go for 16+ hours and I’m not even halfway there. And I’m exhausted going in to a pretty busy week.

    2. Tim Murphy
      Tim Murphy at |

      You should have done (AUS)-JFK-HEL-SIN with me, with a 14 hour layover in HEL 😉

    3. Henry Harteveldt
      Henry Harteveldt at |

      BKK isn’t vacation?

    4. Seth Miller
      Seth Miller at |

      Henry: I’m at a conference next week. Not that anything I do is all work, but that’s the motivation for the trip.

  2. Matthew Kelly
    Matthew Kelly at |

    That’s bone-crushing tired territory. Tough. Haneda’s as Good a place to do it as any. Double connect is rough 🙁

  3. David Scherer
    David Scherer at |

    The most exhausted I’ve ever felt while traveling just happened to be a ORD-NRT-BKK itin. By the time we were halfway to BKK I wanted to crawl into a ball on the floor and sleep. This was probably ten years ago though. Haha

    1. Keith Murray
      Keith Murray at |

      Ah, that’s a cakewalk compared to ICT – PER with IRROPS, an added stop in NAN on the new itinerary, then a missed connection in SYD, and a UM12-year-old American kid who convinced me to tell the QF club attendant I was his “son” so he could go in with me for 6 hours. All I wanted to do was sleep in the club, but he insisted on playing cards for all that time, waking me up whenever I dozed off 🙂

    2. David Scherer
      David Scherer at |

      It was my most tired but definitely not my longest, most grueling itin. I just got stronger over time. ????????‍♂️

  4. Becky
    Becky at |

    You just described how I feel on every flight outside the continent. It sucks but you’ll make it through.

  5. Hick K Son
    Hick K Son at |

    I feel you brother. I had a trip once with wife and two young kids returning from Europe, NAP-FRA-ORD-DEN-LAX with ORD-DEN-LAX in 4 coach seats, kids got to lay out, but dad had no room, and an hour drive after getting to LAX. For me… Worst Ever. Hope you get good rest. Keep that great mind sharp!

  6. Jinxed_K
    Jinxed_K at |

    Least your itinerary lets you fly to HND and connect directly from there.
    My carrier of choice’s international legs always landed in NRT from my home airport and I have to bus/train over to HND for a domestic leg. Depending on where I’m going, it’s usually an overnight stay as the landing is too late to catch the flight out of HND with the hour+ travel time in between the airports. Only destination I can remember that had evening flights I can actually make was to Shin Chitose.

    Probably my personal worst over the years was SYR-EWR-NRT bus HND-CTS in one day.

  7. Charles M. Kunz
    Charles M. Kunz at |

    I mean the time the survivors of Air Florida Flight 90 spent in the icy Potomac River comes to mind as at least a strong second

  8. John Butler
    John Butler at |

    any flight hungover and sick.

  9. Mallthus
    Mallthus at |

    Reminds me of the week I did EWR-SIN-PER, with one night and a presentation in in Perth, followed by PER-SIN-LAX-ORD, 2 nights in Chicago, and then MDW-LGA.

    Being in biz helped, but it was far from a relaxing week.

  10. Julie Breeze
    Julie Breeze at |

    13hr flight is a cakewalk! Lol. I just did 5:5hrs EWR-LAX 3hr layover. 16:55hrs LAX-SIN 2hr layover: 2:15hrs SIN-BKK 2he layover then final 1hr flight to CNX. Doing the same in reverse right now, but with a 12hr layover in SIN!!!

    1. Shawn Pandolfi
      Shawn Pandolfi at |

      Oh god, was that in economy?

  11. Patrick Le Quere
    Patrick Le Quere at |

    There are decent sleeping facilities in both ANA lounges.

  12. David Feldman
    David Feldman at |

    Haha – yes – I just “rethought” my 6+ hr late-night layover at KIX (albeit I wasn’t suffering in Y)…. 1.5 hrs at NRT is much more civilized.

  13. Trevor
    Trevor at |

    The last time I did that itinerary it was BWI-ORD-NRT/HND-BKK (then continued onward to DPS). Haneda was exhausting, and the flight onward to Bangkok was downright painful. Good luck!

  14. Raymond Kwan
    Raymond Kwan at |

    That’s why many prefer the “red-eye” “westbound” flights from N. America to East Asia over the mid-morning ones. One sleep better on the plane.
    Also why the Gulf States airlines can never capture the premium business traffic between East Asia and Europe with their early evening westbounds, no matter how superior their products are.

    1. Seth Miller
      Seth Miller at |

      I did the 5p departure from JFK headed to Haneda. Had I just finished in Tokyo it would’ve been fine. And, to be fair, I’m in Bangkok now and also doing fine, if not a bit groggy. But the mental challenge of those three hours, knowing I wasn’t even half way done, was rough.

  15. Phxbne
    Phxbne at |

    It is worse with a young child who can’t begin to understand what is going on, but old enough to know its not normal around ages 2-4 for us. IAH-EWR-CDG in economy and no lounge , with a 4 hour layover. ” I just want to go home” – but at that point, going home wa was bad as going forward……..we all survived……
    I often get migraines on long flights too, and that makes layovers even worse……

  16. Hetal Bhatt
    Hetal Bhatt at |

    Even worse than Spirit Airlines?

    1. Seth Miller
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  17. Alan
    Alan at |

    Personally what I find much worse is that final leg. You’ve come long haul, from Oz that’ll mean with a connection on the way, to end up in London. Then have a few hours and another hour of flying before Edinburgh. Definitely keen to try Qatar to avoid this final leg issue!

  18. DaveS
    DaveS at |

    Having a layover when tired in a pleasant modern airport simply is not the “worst three hours of travel”, and I’m pretty sure on reflection (or if he saw it written by someone else) Seth would agree that the headline is, well, somewhat exaggerated. I was expecting to read about a near death experience when I clicked on the story. I would expect that any well traveled person could come up with a very lengthy list of worse three hour periods.

    On the main point, I think the effects of long haul flights and jet lag are different for everybody, and likely for the same person at different times of day and in different directions. My rule is to simply make the best of it on the flight, and upon arrival try hard to function until normal local bedtime. The fact I’m a light sleeper in any case probably makes it easier. A day or night of weird hours with limited sleep isn’t out of the ordinary, so there’s not as much to bounce back from as in the case of a person with very regular sleep habits.

  19. Steven Sullivan
    Steven Sullivan at |

    I was very glad we split our trip a few months ago with an overnight at the ICN Hyatt both ways. We were exhausted and ready for sleep not long after getting to ICN, but well rested the next morning when we headed on to BKK. The time adjustment seemed easier, too. The downside was it added days to the trip, which isn’t always doable. And, it was somewhat of a side of effect of the best way to get business class awards the entire way involved a combination of DL and UA miles. Still, it worked out nicely to break up that trip and adjust to the time difference with a good sleep in a real bed in the middle of it.